Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
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Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
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does anyone of you know the effective dynamic range, in f-stops, for Ilford Delta 100 sheet film? I looked online, but except for people saying it has a rather wide latitude, I could not find any actual number.
Thank you!
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does anyone of you know the effective dynamic range, in f-stops, for Ilford Delta 100 sheet film? I looked online, but except for people saying it has a rather wide latitude, I could not find any actual number.
Thank you!
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
As with most B&W film, you could expect around 14 stops of latitude, but that would depend on how you expose and process the film.
The Zone System allows you to expand or compress available contrast range to fit the film anyway; it is usually the way that you are going to print the neg that determines how much you need to compress range.

This picture has a range of brightness, from the shadow of the bottom of the desk, to the sky through the window or the gas mantle, of around 13 stops. Because I was planning on only ever scanning the negative, I set the shadows in Zone 2 and the highlights in Zone 10. If you were planning on wet printing, you would more than likely need to use Zone 3 and 8 instead.
The Zone System allows you to expand or compress available contrast range to fit the film anyway; it is usually the way that you are going to print the neg that determines how much you need to compress range.

This picture has a range of brightness, from the shadow of the bottom of the desk, to the sky through the window or the gas mantle, of around 13 stops. Because I was planning on only ever scanning the negative, I set the shadows in Zone 2 and the highlights in Zone 10. If you were planning on wet printing, you would more than likely need to use Zone 3 and 8 instead.
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
Thanks Joanna!
Wow, so B&W negative has more dynamic range than the top of the range digital backs
I'm used to about 6 f-stops on my Nikon D90, so I always had to use ND grads to bring everything within range. I guess now I'll use those filters much less then.
I always used and still use the Zone System, however I never did any N+1 or N-1 processing, as I worked with roll film, therefore I had to go for normal processing. Now that I'm working with sheet film though, I'm going to experiment on expanding and contracting the range.
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Wow, so B&W negative has more dynamic range than the top of the range digital backs

I always used and still use the Zone System, however I never did any N+1 or N-1 processing, as I worked with roll film, therefore I had to go for normal processing. Now that I'm working with sheet film though, I'm going to experiment on expanding and contracting the range.
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
Now, is that comment worthy of banning you for mentioning the D word?Valerio Trigari wrote:Wow, so B&W negative has more dynamic range than the top of the range digital backs![]()


You have to remember that digital sensors are essentially colour devices, with about the same range as colour transparency film.Valerio Trigari wrote:I'm used to about 6 f-stops on my Nikon D90, so I always had to use ND grads to bring everything within range. I guess now I'll use those filters much less then.
The only filters you tend to use with B&W are things like red, orange, yellow, green, etc; mainly for effects like darkening skies or separating tones of opposite colours.
Oh yes, plenty of scope for improvement, as well as plenty of ways to make mistakesValerio Trigari wrote:I always used and still use the Zone System, however I never did any N+1 or N-1 processing, as I worked with roll film, therefore I had to go for normal processing. Now that I'm working with sheet film though, I'm going to experiment on expanding and contracting the range.



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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
I actually meant that B&W film is much better than a £25,000+ electronic tool!Joanna Carter wrote:Now, is that comment worthy of banning you for mentioning the D word?![]()

I have the set of basic B&W filters from Lee (yellow, yellow-green, orange end light red), as well as the polariser. However, the set of hard and soft ND grads from Lee are always with me, just in case.Joanna Carter wrote:You have to remember that digital sensors are essentially colour devices, with about the same range as colour transparency film.
The only filters you tend to use with B&W are things like red, orange, yellow, green, etc; mainly for effects like darkening skies or separating tones of opposite colours.

We learn by our mistakes, don't we?Joanna Carter wrote:Oh yes, plenty of scope for improvement, as well as plenty of ways to make mistakes![]()
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
Luckily I'm not a pendant or I'd pull you up on that statement…Joanna Carter wrote:You have to remember that digital sensors are essentially colour devices,…

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Yeah, and, what's more, you actually have to think about what you are doing, rather than having a very expensive "point and shoot"Valerio Trigari wrote:I actually meant that B&W film is much better than a £25,000+ electronic tool!![]()

IF you want any gash film, I have plenty to spareValerio Trigari wrote:We learn by our mistakes, don't we?

Doh! OK, then I guess they are really three B&W devices?dave_whatever wrote:Luckily I'm not a pendant or I'd pull you up on that statement…Joanna Carter wrote:You have to remember that digital sensors are essentially colour devices,…
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
Joanna that's one of the best examples of "tonality" that I have seen from Delta 100. Can I ask you what you used for developer/dilution?
Best wishes,
George
Best wishes,
George
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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
When you have only 6 available shots with you, you think twice before taking pictures like a machine gun!Joanna Carter wrote:Yeah, and, what's more, you actually have to think about what you are doing, rather than having a very expensive "point and shoot"

What do you mean by "gash" film? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know the meaning of the term...Joanna Carter wrote:IF you want any gash film, I have plenty to spare
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I'm sorry to disillusion you George but that shot was taken on Fuji Acros, developed in Ilford DDX @ 1+9. But I would expect similar results from Delta 100.George Hart wrote:Joanna that's one of the best examples of "tonality" that I have seen from Delta 100. Can I ask you what you used for developer/dilution?
Thanks Neil.Neil Guss wrote:Also, that is a really nice black and white example above.
I'm sorry, "gash" is a term for film that has been spoiled, whether that be by accidental exposure or non-exposure or wrong exposureValerio Trigari wrote:What do you mean by "gash" film? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know the meaning of the term...

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It all makes sense now!Joanna Carter wrote:I'm sorry, "gash" is a term for film that has been spoiled, whether that be by accidental exposure or non-exposure or wrong exposure

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Re: Ilford Delta 100 Dynamic Range
Joanna, How many minutes at 20C do you need to develop Acros in a DDX 1+9 dilution? I thought I would have a go at developing my own Acros.Joanna Carter wrote: I'm sorry to disillusion you George but that shot was taken on Fuji Acros, developed in Ilford DDX @ 1+9. But I would expect similar results from Delta 100.I'm sorry, "gash" is a term for film that has been spoiled, whether that be by accidental exposure or non-exposure or wrong exposureValerio Trigari wrote:What do you mean by "gash" film? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know the meaning of the term...
Valerio, Gash in the Royal Navy means Food. Gash film to me therefore means edible film.....


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