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Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:27 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by jennym
I think this is a good idea, but it is hard to comment without knowing how the system will work and what glitches there might be with loading/dust etc. Also how the cost will compare with quickloads. I look forward to seeing a finished product and trying it out. Good luck with the project.
Jenny

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:28 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Baxter
This sounds like a very interesting potential product and I am very interested in seeing it being produced and would almost certainly use it.

As someone who has happily been shooting 'A sheets' using DDS and 'B sheets' with QL for several years, I see no discernible difference in the dust from each shot and feel that some photographers are very much over-reacting to this issue. Dust is predominantly on the surface of the film when I scan rather than there before the shot was made or processed.

The ability to have a wider range of emulsions loaded in these envelopes is fantastic and the savings made by not having to buy propriety QL is another incentive. Typically I carry 9DDS in my bag plus QL+holder, the potential reduction in bag weight would be v appreciated! Storing the lower volume of sheet film in freezer/fridge is another benefit.

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:03 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Paul Arthur
Joanna

As I mentioned at the weekend - I'd be very interested in this, but even more interested if there was a reloadable holder. It would of course mean that you'd have to find a reusable way to adhere the film to the holder in the envelope. I'd be very keen on a reusable version that could lead to even greater savings.... you'd make a bigger margin per holder that way too..

Paul

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:33 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by robinb
Hi Joanna

I'd also be very interested in this

Next on your list could be a 10x8 version ...

Robin

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:14 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Marizu
Joanna, which Polaroid (Fuji?) holders do you anticipate being compatible with? I find the whole Polaroid thing a bit of a minefield (maybe that's a different post).
robinb wrote: Next on your list could be a 10x8 version ...
The idea of a 10x8 is quite intriguing if it could work in a 10x8 Polaroid holder. I don't know why I didn't realise how bulky 10x8 DDS would be. No wonder Ansel used a donkey. I'm thinking of getting one just to get them to from my house to the van.
The higher overall cost of 10x8 film and chems coupled with the back breaking DDS might amortize the cost of the envelopes quicker than for the smaller 5x4 making it a more attractive proposition for using bigger film.

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:24 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by jennym
Hi Joanna,

Do you have a timeframe for production of these envelopes? Are you at an early stage of negotiations, or quite far down the line? Should I be holding my breath?

Many thanks,

Jenny

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:30 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Patrick Dixon
Marizu wrote:Joanna, which Polaroid (Fuji?) holders do you anticipate being compatible with? I find the whole Polaroid thing a bit of a minefield (maybe that's a different post).
The 545 holders are compatible with QL and the defunct Readyloads - so it would be those.

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:58 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
Any news, Joanna? :idea:

Now that Fuji has announced it's discontinuing all Quickload

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:08 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Sal Santamaura
Joanna, do you have an update now that you know there won't be competition from *any* Fuji Quickloads after the distribution pipeline runs out?

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:55 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
Joanna

You mention that a German firm will need £4K for tools and a total investment of £10K to get it off the ground? Have you posted this information in APUG, as it is possible that following Fuji Japan's announcement that they are stopping production of QL after April 2010, there may be greater interest in the LF community for investing in this. Would you consider offering shares, on a non-profit basis, to raise the money, or some other incentive for LF users to invest in this idea?

I would be interested in donating £500 towards this project next year, if I could pay it in a couple of installments of £250?

Steve

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:39 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
I have just posted some information on APUG to ascertain if their members might be interested in the Carter Envelope System.

linky: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum44/7013 ... post918797

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:01 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
--- U P D A T E ---

It appears there may be some potential interest in the US... following me posting basic information about Joanna's proposed system.

http://michaelegordon.wordpress.com/200 ... eadyloads/

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:55 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
There is significant interest in the US of Joanna's proposed system of self-loaded QL envelopes, which you can read via the link below.

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum44/7013 ... rizon.html

There is concern that it should not be as difficult to load as something called a Mido holder. Does anyone here know about Mido holders and could comment?

Steve

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:54 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Joanna Carter
I have posted a response to APUG. The envelopes will be relatively easy to self-load, the only problem, as with all holders, would be dust. We are lookng at supplying a loading jig which will simplify things but there is also a chance that we might also be able to supply them pre-filled with certain emulsions from a clean room.

Re: Envelope System for Quickload, ReadyLoad, Polaroid Holders

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:59 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Thingy
Joanna Carter wrote:I have posted a response to APUG. The envelopes will be relatively easy to self-load, the only problem, as with all holders, would be dust. We are lookng at supplying a loading jig which will simplify things but there is also a chance that we might also be able to supply them pre-filled with certain emulsions from a clean room.
They are still keen on the idea, Joanna. I've referred "Texas" Mike to the brief discussion about the idea of 10x8 QL earlier in this thread. "Oslo" Mike thinks the 5000 sheet viability target is feasible as he has pointed out that he has used 150 sheet in the past year and has 400 sheets in storage and another 100 on order.

I would also guarentee you an annual order of 60-100 sheets.