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Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:17 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Nick Coombs
Hi...

I hope this is not a silly question to ask, but here goes.

The shutter speed values on LF lens are these the same ratings as you would see on a moden DSLR.
500 = 1/500 and 10 = 1/10 and 1 = 1sec etc...

I have timed some of my lower numbers on my Camera and if what I think is right as above then mine way out.

Example 10 = a few seconds on mine..

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:02 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by IanG
They are the reciprocal values as you've assumed.

It's not unsusual for the slower speeds to get sticky and slow with leaf shutters like Copal/Compur etc, that tends to mean they need a CLA (Clean, Lubricate, re-Assembly). Sometimes a quick flush clean with alcohol or lighter fuel is sufficient (needs to be pure IPA), often the lubricants have gone solid.

Ian

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:06 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Nick Coombs
Thanks Ian...

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:58 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Nick Coombs
Ian...

Thanks for the tip, all working fine after a good clean...

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:08 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by dave_whatever
IanG wrote:(needs to be pure IPA)
Have you got any thoughts on brands Ian - which is more suitable for a shutter, something fairly mainstream, like Deuchars or maybe something a bit more local? :wink:

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:25 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by IanG
The flush clean has resurrected at least a dozen shutters for me over the years, in fact all my older Compur's are more accurate than my newer Copal's but then they are far btter made :D Even my 1913 Dial set Compur works well.

I keep the hoppy IPA for more useful purposes :D and they are great for cooking as well.

Ian

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:55 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Emmanuel Bigler
Some shutters of the pre-1960 era have a "non standard" series of speeds : 1/2 - 1/5 - 1/10 - 1/25 - 1/50 - 1/100 - 1/200 - 1/400
(at least, at the time THIS series was the standard ;) )

You can download here
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/412475261_57e8f77071_b.jpg
a simple home-made chart that will give you at a glance the nearest values in terms of 1/3-rd of f-stop, if your exposure meter (a youngster) insists on saying : "1/2 - 1/4 - 1/8 - 1/15 - 1/30 - 1/60 - 1/125 - 1/250 ..."

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:35 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Justin
Can anyone recommend anyone in the UK for a CLA - I have a 100 year old Regno shutter that doesnt close properly if it is in a bad mood, and I suspect it might need more than IPA to cure it...

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:05 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by IanG
You could try Ellis & Newton in Liverpool for the repair, I use Black on White in Bristol but not sure whether John there is into really vintage shutters.

I like my older shutters and their speeds are on my light meters :D In fact a selling point was they could be set to speeds in between the markings, a Leica advert for the new IIIa (1936) reminded me as you can do the same with mechanical FP shutter.

Ian

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:50 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
Ian

You're pretty well spot on with BonW - he's not really the right person for vintage shutters and from my conversations with him, I feel that he would definitely endorse that

and not wishing to seem overly smart, (which isn't the point at all) it's Newton Ellis and here's the link http://www.newtonellis.com/

best

andrew :)

Re: Shutter Values on lens

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:28 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Justin
Andrew Plume wrote:Ian

You're pretty well spot on with BonW - he's not really the right person for vintage shutters and from my conversations with him, I feel that he would definitely endorse that

and not wishing to seem overly smart, (which isn't the point at all) it's Newton Ellis and here's the link http://www.newtonellis.com/

best

andrew :)
Thanks, I contacted them and they were happy to work on it, will send it off...