Which Wide Angle Lens?

[Emmanuel Bigler]

Keith
According to the Schneider archive (see an_su_1963.pdf an_su_1967.pdf an_su_1970.pdf an_su_1995.pdf) the 90 6.8 (not-super-)angulon has a compur size 0.
The 90 F/8 super angulon has a compur size 0.
So the copal 0 should be a direct replacement, same threads, same diameters and same sacing between lens groups.
The 6.8 65 angulon and the 65 f/8 super angulon have a size-00, this small compur does not have (to the best of my knowledge) any sucessor in the copal line.
As far as I know the only modern size-00 shutter is the Chinese model that used to equip the Seagull 6x6 TLR.

[Ole Tjugen]

Plain Angulon 90/6.8 is in a #0 - Prontor, Compur and Copal are the same. There were some that were made a smidgeon thinner for the 90/6.8 Angulon, but I believe any Angulon after about 1950 is in a "standard" shutter.

The oldest 90/8 Super Angulons came in Compur #00, later ones in #0.

[masch]

Keith,

Ffordes currently have a 90/8 SA with recessed technika board for 249 right now.

There's also a couple of 90/6.8 Grandagons for around 500 and a Nikkor 90/4.5 SW for 699

Marc

[IanG]

Keith, I have an f6.8 90mm Grandagon and an f8 Super Angulon, both are superb lenses although I prefer the Grandagon which is now on my 6x17 camera, but then I've been using the lense for about 20 years.

You will notice a huge increase in useability and quality with either over an f6.8 Angulon. While the Angulons are small & light their edge coverage is poor so they are tricky to use with movements and need stopping down.

I bought the f8 Super Angulon in May this year for 5x4 use and it's in excellent condition, I paid about £160 for it.

Ian

[Keith Tapscott]

Keith,

Ffordes currently have a 90/8 SA with recessed technika board for 249 right now.

There's also a couple of 90/6.8 Grandagons for around 500 and a Nikkor 90/4.5 SW for 699

Marc

I checked the Ffordes site, but no 90mm f/8 SA, so it must have been sold.
The wider f/stop lenses such as f/6.8 etc are unlikely to fit my coned lensboard. (see the post`s by Aynsley Cooper.)
viewtopic.php?t=249

Thanks,
Keith.

[Keith Tapscott]

Keith, I have an f6.8 90mm Grandagon and an f8 Super Angulon, both are superb lenses.

You will notice a huge increase in useability and quality with either over an f6.8 Angulon.

I bought the f8 Super Angulon in May this year for 5x4 use and it's in excellent condition, I paid about £160 for it.

Ian

You have obviously found a bargain Ian, I wish I could be as lucky although I am still searching.
Perhaps I might even find one of the later multi-coated versions.

[IanG]

The secret is to keep looking and be patient.

They do come up on ebay, but the best time to buy is when quite a few are listed at the same time. Look across the EU to as postage is reasonable. I bought an as new f8 75mm SA from Italy for about £130 3 months ago, it was still packed in its box, last multicoated model. Theres far less demand for 5x4 lenses in other European countries so the sell for much less.

Ian

[gari]

You might want to look at MXV as they had a couple f8,SA90's for around £250.
Gari

http://www.mxv.co.uk/largeformat.asp

[Keith Tapscott]

I made a phone call yesterday to `Mr Cad` in Croydon, Surrey and was told that they had one in stock which had just arrived in mint condition for £299. I bought this and it arrived this morning and seems to be free of any blemishes and is multi-coated too.
This lens has the same filter thread as my 180mm Symmar-S which is convenient, so whatever I decide to do in future with the 5x4 format, whether I keep the MPP or upgrade to a monorail or field Camera, I will have two good quality lenses to use.
Perhaps if I attended a workshop in future, I will get to see what other 5x4 users have and decide if I want to change to another system from there.