FS: Ebony SW45 + 2 x Schneider leneses + misc items

Anything to sell (WTS) or looking for anything specific (WTB)? Anything advertised on this forum comes with the usual "buyer beware" advice; it is up to the purchaser to assure themselves of the integrity of the supplier and item being sold. It is also the responsibility of the seller to ensure that payment is forthcoming before parting with said item.
Post Reply
acorker
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:52 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
Location: Derbyshire, England
Contact:

FS: Ebony SW45 + 2 x Schneider leneses + misc items

Post by acorker » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:19 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Hi.

Posting to guage initial interest..

I'm new to the forum, and unfortunately, I'm leaving Large Format photography. Labs don't process E6 for a reasonable cost, digital Medium Format backs and scanning Large Format backs are still not economical or practical in many situations, and I can get 20+ megapixels to put behind my L-class Canon glass for £4k.

I brought the following brand new from Robert While (receipts available and no doubt they would vouch for the sale if I asked them to).

The items are boxed and have had little use. The only mark on the whole system is a single ~7mm scratch on the metal tripod plate underneath, that I'm sure would polish off. Otherwise mint. The lovely adictive 'new Ebony camera' smell still covers everything!
  • Ebony SW45 camera.
    Ebony Extension back
    Schneider Kreuznach Apo Super-Symmar f4.5/80mm + copal shutter
    Schneider Kreuznach Apo-Symmar f5.6/150mm + copal shutter
    Fuji Quickload film holder
    Polaroid Pro film holder
    Titanium viewing frame, Ebony lightweight dark cloth.
I'm looking, ultimately, to effecivly trade to a 1DS III body, so, offers at market rate if anybody is interested? Will not split unless buyers can be found for everything. I'm offering here first as I'd prefer it to go to a good home.
If I can't get anything reasonable, I might go the other way and just hold on until 25+ megapixel digital backs drop in price - if anybody is selling on of those?

Regards,
Al.
www.alancorker.com

Joanna Carter
Founder
Posts: 1283
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:26 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
Workshop Images: http://grandes-images.com/fr/Paysages/P ... _2009.html
Location: Plestin-les-Grèves, France
Contact:

Re: FS: Ebony SW45 + 2 x Schneider leneses + misc items

Post by Joanna Carter » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:37 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

acorker wrote:Labs don't process E6 for a reasonable cost
Alan, where are you going for processing ? I use Leach Colour in Huddersfield only charge £1.73 per sheet + VAT, dropping to as little as £1.30 for quantities of 20+; price breaks at 2, 5 and 10 sheets as well.

Excellent quality and they do have collection/delivery routes to some areas.
Reassure yourself - stroke an Ebony

acorker
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:52 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
Location: Derbyshire, England
Contact:

Post by acorker » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:49 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00

>>Alan, where are you going for processing ?<<

Hi Joanna,

I guess I was referring to the overall cost really, in general terms, both financially and chronologically.

Usually I'll travel a long way for images, so I'll take a bracketed spread per scene to ensure I nail it, especially where receprocity failure can make things slightly more tricky. In addition I'll take a few batches during different lighting conditions e.g. during sunrise. So one 'shot' will easily end up costing me ~£50+:

- The polaroid proofs to get exposure, composition and focus bang on
- The bracketing
- The time spent scanning and 'candidates' when I get back

(I'm a perfectionist, and nothing irritates me more than travelling 800 miles round trip to Scotland to come back without an adequate rendering of a particuar the scene I was standing in front of - especially if I've hung around for 2 days to wait for good weather/light. You hear of so many top LF photographers moaning they didn't quite nail this or that and have to return.)

I see the overall cost at a very rough £5.00 per click. I have no problem doing my own E6 processing; I used to do all my old MF processing when I used to do weddings on MF. However, now, I'm usually working long weeks so my personal time becomes exponentially more prescious to me - so my optimised E6 processing takes ~30 minute for 5 sheets is a non-starter + taking over the kitchen for a week never goes down well.

While yea, many would say I could spend more time with the exposure meter (I use a good Sekonic 1-degree spot). I've tried that, but concluded that my subjects - typically darker landscapes early in the morning - coupled to the narrow Velvia exposure latitude and tricky receprocity issues meant I would often 'miss the moment' as I was busy taking meter readings, or scratching my head during the magic 5-10 minute window per day.
I ultimately found that I tended to get better results spending time in composition and focus before the sunrise, then sit and wait for the perfect lighting, take a quick spot reading every couple of minutes, dial in a few stops down and bracket to a stop or so above to ensure I nailed it perfectly. LF exposures are quite long, so you don't get that many out even 'machine gunning' them off.

In time, I hope mid-range Medium Format backs come down in price, such as ~25 megapixel Phase 1's, but really I'd also need to get a couple of Rodenstock or Schneider digital LF lenses to take full benefit. In the meantime, I'll probably stick with high-end 35mm digital. Things are happening in the MF market as technology advances, such as 50MP Hassleblad and 60.5MP Phase 1 sensors pushing prices down lower down the range - but most photographers, such as myself, are still priced out of that market.

From another perspective, I would go to Scotland for a week, spend £350 on accomodation, petrol, food etc., but another £400+ on film/dev costs with a modest 80-100 slides - not to mention the time sorting them out and scanning when I got back. (I see so much in Scotland that I tend to go a bit mad, justifying the trip by capturing many scenes).
By contrast, if something is in my own back yard then I can afford to go out and take 1 or two exposures per scene. No great issue going back the next week if I missed it.

Once I've got 20 megapixels behind my Canon L primes, I'm 'OK'. But as everybody in this forum knows, LF really is tops for landscapes and I hope to return to it one day, as I know I'll miss it greatly. I've considered ways to use my current Schneider lenses on a Canon body, such as a Horsman LD, but you don't get the wide-angles for obvious reasons.
By contrast taking a typical Scotland trip as an example, if I were to take digital SLRs instead (or an MF digital back), all I'd wasted would be 'electricity' to charge the batteries - not £100's in film/time. The effective saving would also buy back my free-time, as I'd just have to drop my shots into Apple Lightroom and sort them out. I'd wager I'd pay for the 1DS III in 8 such trips - ar fewer trips if you factor in long-distance travel, flights and so forth for more exotic locations.

PS. When using Canon landscape lenses such as the 24mm f3.5 T/S, nailing the tilt is still tricky in low light, even with the angle-finder magnification. I've found that taking a Canon CP-330 battery operated dye-sub 7x4" printer is a bonus as I can get digital proofs in situ. Surreal to see some guy in the middle of nowhere in the pouring rain at 5am with a brolly attached to the tripod taking proofs on a dye-sub printer slung under his tripod - but it saves having to go back again! The dye-sub film-packs are ~£0.35p a pop and I can buy them in any high-street Jessops, and they don't go off when you turn your back, which is what stale Polaroid film does. Oh yea, they've stopped making the Polaroid film now haven't they?

All,

I was rather tired when I wrote the original, hence a couple of typos. I got it from Robert White, not While. oops

Regards,
Al.[/quote]
-Al

acorker
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:52 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
Location: Derbyshire, England
Contact:

Post by acorker » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:12 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Hi.

Thanks for the generous offers.

I've decided selling is pointless. Holding it and re-lifing the system with the new Mamiya ZDb back and soon to be announced sliding back to adapt it to all the LF systems out there crying out for a cost-effective digital back.

Press release:

http://www.mamiya.com/news-events-press ... backs.html

Closeup image:

http://www.mamiya.com/assets/press/4-5adp_ZDB.jpg

Now that the 5D Mk II has been announced and Canon have raised the bar yet again, this begs the obvious question; if this is the 5D spec., what will the 1Ds Mk IV spec extrapoloate to? 38 mega-pixels if my math is in the right ballpark.
The increased competition in the mega-pixel/price points, Mamiya will be forced to consider their pricing strategy, especially with the advent of several 50+ mega-pixel backs.

Hopefully this turns out to be the holy grail for LF landscape and product photographers who need the benefit of the OUSTANDING array of LF lenses out there.

If Mamiya were to drop the sliding back and digital back package to around £4,000, I'm sure the lower end of commercial side of the LF community would welcome it with open arms. If not in GPB £, then the USD $ equivelant so I can pick one up on holiday to the USA and benefit from the exchange rate.

Now Leica have done the inevitable with their S2 system, I'm sure in the next year Canon will also compete in that platform by feeding the 1Ds on steroids, especially now the 38megapixel extrapolation renderes their platform obsolete for true high-end work - none of their lenses can resolve that much detail. Yea, they're pretty good - bleat bleat if you like - but they won't touch MF/LF equivelents for equivelant wide-angle perspectivly corrected work - I.E. what LF was 'invented' for in the 'pro' arena using Digitar LF lenses. Even Schneider LF lenses will knock anything Canon has in their L-prime WIDE-ANGLE range for dead - and they know it.
Even the 5D Mk I out-resolves most of their 24 mm lenses in the corners at wider apertures.

Best regards,
Al.
-Al

Post Reply