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Hi there everyone

After stumping up for a 45SU, I'm looking to sell my SV45TE - I've got someone interested in buying it in a month's time, but perhaps if there's interest on here I might let it go before then.

It's in fantastic condition and would come with a couple of spare lens plates and a Peli Case.

Haven't listed it on the auction site, but I'm looking for £1,600 for it - anyone interested?

Paul

You did what I thought about doing when I saw Paul's SU.... sell my SV45Te to buy it. I restrained myself - no will power I hope I dont feel too jealous next time I see an SU coming out !

Dave

Now Dave, what's wrong with a SV45Te? Mine is still working fine, doesn't have all that asymmetric thingy stuff to confuse you; just a simple folding camera that can cope with lenses from 48mm to 500mm and has as many movements as a Sinar. I can focus most landscapes in less than five minutes.

OK, I'll put away the big wooden stirring spoon now

I hope thats an Ebony big wooden spoon - ok I'll get me coat !!!

TimH wrote:I hope thats an Ebony big wooden spoon - ok I'll get me coat !!!

with assymetric stir..

Bump and a definite up for sale.

The camera will be going up on eBay this week, but would take £1,500 + p&p from anyone here if they are interested. Includes a Peli Hard Case.

So the SV45TE is now on eBay. It'll be running from 7pm tonight for 10 days, but there's a BIN of £1500.

You can find it here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0347378264

Joanna Carter wrote:doesn't have all that asymmetric thingy stuff to confuse you

you mean to make life easier...

Apple wrote:you mean to make life easier...

Unless you're doing architectural work

OK, I guess it will have to be a case of Tripod at 20 paces

As I no longer own an Ebony I now feel I can comment in an unbiased way on the usefulness (or not) of asymmetric movements

Are they useful? Hell yes!!
Are they essential? Hell no!!
Would I have them again? Oh yessss!!

In my opinion they are definitely a godsend when light conditions are changing and you're not too worried about verticals being slightly out (landscape shots) but they are not a miracle-cure to the problems facing photographers using camera movements. All they allow is that once you've decided on the movement you wish to use the asymmetric mechanism makes it quicker and easier to apply these movements.

There is still a great deal of snobbery involving assymetric movements (especially on Ebony cameras) but the most vociferous seem to be people who've never used an asymmetric camera or who don't fully understand the movements

An example is people who insist on thinking that the important features of an image need to correspond to the asymmetric lines on the screen - hence the screen/camera decides the composition not the photographer?? Rubbish

You can compose an image on the 45SU as you would with any camera and then the part of the image that lies on the plane of asymmetric tilt/swing is then brought into focus using this movement. I believe that this myth has been generated by people who have realised that a) Joe Cornish uses an asymmetric camera and b) think that his trademark "boulder in foreground" is due to restrictions placed on him by the asymmetric movements on the camera.

Bottom line ... you don't NEED the "important" feature of a compositon to fall along these asymetric planes of movement; rather WHATEVER part of the image that falls on them is used as a point of focus.

Is this really the place for a discussion about the merits of asymmetric movements?

The SV45TE has now got a BIN price on eBay of £1,400

Paul

PAUL O wrote:I believe that this myth has been generated by people who have realised that a) Joe Cornish uses an asymmetric camera and b) think that his trademark "boulder in foreground" is due to restrictions placed on him by the asymmetric movements on the camera.

So it's not true that you can only use asymmetric movements in portrait format?

This is now sold.