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WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:59 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Gareth Gardner
Hi folks

It's that time of year when I have some time to dream about upcoming large format photo projects!

Anyway, thought I'd do a quick trawl to see if anyone has lenses to sell that happily cover 5x7 with movements.

I have a few lenses already, but looking for lenses in the region of:

115/120/121mm
150mm (with movements, as opposed to my present lens which barely covers)
180mm
240/270mm

I'm looking for relatively small/lightweight (I would say 700g as the max weight, but smaller the better) mounted in shutter to use on my Canham MQC57. And cheap. With the emphasis on the cheap...!

I'm also very interested in vintage lenses, again in shutter.

Thanks
Gareth

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:57 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
Hi Gareth

well, we're all after cheap lenses, aren't we.................................... :lol: :lol:

the truth is, is that unless they're pretty knackered, then they're not cheap at all

...................and even at the Camera Fairs, there's scant about unless it's 35mm/mf stuff

when you say 'vintage' what sort of period do you have in mind, 'brass lenses' per se are only rarely found in shutters - your best bet is to play around with brass lenses in a barrel mount, these are cheaper, if you're after 'a vintage effect'

however, if you would like to firm up further on exactly what you have in mind, then I'll have a look see and reply

btw is there any difference between 120 and 121mm on 5 x 7?

regards

andrew

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:03 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
or alternatively.......................

if the use of a shutter "is a deal breaker"....................

why not take one of your existing shutters and attach a brass lens to it, works just fine, mebbe not the purist way of doing things but just as good - shutter can go either at the lens hood end or attached to the rear thread

just another thought, my few cents worth etc etc

andrew

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:19 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by vanman
You could consider buying a Copal 3 shutter and using step up rings to front mount the shutter on any number of your lenses.
I've used this method until I bought my Sinar with a Sinar/Copal shutter.
LUC and Packard shutters are also worth considering. British Thornton Pickard shutters are also plentiful but my preferences are for a front mounted Copal 3 or a Sinar/Copal shutter.
Vanman.

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:44 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
VM

good stuff, as per usual

if the Sinar Shutter is used, then because of the size of the Canham boards and the general configuration around the front standard (of that Camera), this type of shutter could only be front mounted to a lens

regards

andrew

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:17 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by vanman
Hi Andrew,
I was lucky, my Sinar/Copal shutter came with a Sinar Norma. Oh God, I promised that I wouldn't mention that I had a Sinar again!!!
The Copal 3 has a better range of speeds as I discovered today trying to use an estimated F3 lens with 100iso film in bright sunlight on the Norma. I had a fairly dense red filter but I'd left the ND's at home. Oh well, always another day.
Vanman.

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:27 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
VM

...........and thank you

regards

andrew

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:45 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Gareth Gardner
Goodness! Thanks for this explosion of information. I will digest and respond....!
Thanks
G

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:29 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Gareth Gardner
Me again. I must say this idea of a copal 3 mounted to the front of old lenses sounds cool. I'm thinking about some lovely swirly bokeh!

The next challenge would be finding someone to drill the boards...! I guess this is straightforward.

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:00 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
Gareth Gardner wrote:Me again. I must say this idea of a copal 3 mounted to the front of old lenses sounds cool. I'm thinking about some lovely swirly bokeh!

The next challenge would be finding someone to drill the boards...! I guess this is straightforward.

Gareth

you can cobble anything together with a lens board, black duck tape is one of your best bet's

regards

andrew

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:52 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Riverman
Gareth

I have sent you a pm

Re: WTB lenses for 5x7

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:25 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00
by Andrew Plume
Gareth Gardner wrote:Me again. I must say this idea of a copal 3 mounted to the front of old lenses sounds cool. I'm thinking about some lovely swirly bokeh!

The next challenge would be finding someone to drill the boards...! I guess this is straightforward.

Gareth

'your bog standard' f8 Rapid Rectilinear, does not and will not swirl

a Petzval from, say, Dallmeyer, probably will not

.............but a cheaper Petzval, no doubt off of a Magic Lantern, almost certainly will swirl

regards

andrew