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Hi From Surrey

Post by Bill Backhouse » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:50 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Hi I'm Bill from Guildford. I've been playing with photography for a couple of years now and got most enjoyment from film stuff. I only shoot 35mm at the moment (but have a very nice Canon EOS1v to do it with), and have an old zeiss medium format folder to start playing with medium format. I have been tasked with building a couple of larger view cameras for work, no real need to make prints, they are just educational demos basically for pinhole photography.I will start with pin hole stuff and would like the option of printing direct to the Harman direct positive paper. I would then like to extend this to a proper lens setup, so I'm here looking for into and advice.

I've also recently aquired a very nice Devere 405 enlarger so I can now print from 5X4 negs, I'm probably going to want a nice small 5X4 monorail the more I hang about here and see the fantastic picture you guys(and girls) have taken!

I'm new to all this so be nice and humour the stupid questions

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Paul Mitchell » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:35 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Welcome to the dark slide Bill

Will be interested to see how you get on with your LF pinhole... are you involved with a school or college?

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Bill Backhouse » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:57 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

I work in a university (Surrey) in electronic engineering (so my home brew LF camera will probably have Ap and Sp modes :) ), but we do a fair bit of 'widening access' stuff which is taking science and engineering to kids from ages of about 6 to 16. One of our projects was pin hole camera based, we really need something a bit more instant (kids don't 'get' film we had a couple of instances of them taking the film out to check the pictures before processing) so I'm thinking more group based, big view camera they can all get behind and Harman direct positive paper for making the images (last time I have 20 rolls of C-41 to dev and scan each session). I did try and construct a pin-hole camera with flat bed scanner on the back, think large format digital on the cheap. It had promise but needed (a lot of) work.

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Paul Mitchell » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:19 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

All sounds like good fun! especially using a flatbed scanner as a pinhole! :shock: Don't know if you've had time to peruse yet but there's been one or two threads regarding home made LF cameras. Or you can try what a friend of mine does... he turns whole rooms into a pinhole camera! http://www.derekreayphotography.co.uk/P ... scura.html

Welcome again and good luck with your project

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by John Hamlen » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:03 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Welcome Bill.
Really keen to learn how you got on with the Direct Positive paper. I'm a complete LF newbie but, as soon as my 8x10 kit is assembled, I'll be christening it with this paper. I really like the idea of in camera positives, though I will need to find a way of taming the contrast by pre-flashing without a darkroom.
What size are you going to make the camera? The paper goes up to 20x16 :wink:
All the best,
John

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Paul Mitchell » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:26 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00

John Hamlen wrote:Welcome Bill.
Really keen to learn how you got on with the Direct Positive paper. I'm a complete LF newbie but, as soon as my 8x10 kit is assembled, I'll be christening it with this paper. I really like the idea of in camera positives, though I will need to find a way of taming the contrast by pre-flashing without a darkroom.
What size are you going to make the camera? The paper goes up to 20x16 :wink:
All the best,
John
John, one of my chums on the Filmwasters forum has had a go with this paper http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=4138.0

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Bill Backhouse » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:10 am Etc/GMT-1+01:00

I'll post my successes with the positive paper (if I fail I'll just keep schtumm :)).

My intention was to build a 4X5 (see I'm learning, didn't call it 5X4) camera mainly for portability but I may go straight to 8X10 my worry is outgrowing the pinhole and the subsequent cost of lenses! For the pinhole and positive paper I'm considering using a simple light tight box with a pinhole in the base and mount the paper on the lid, then just go out to do a single shot and re-load in the darkroom. Its a bit clunky but cheap and I work at surrey uni so we have plenty of stuff to shoot withing 5 mins walk while I get the hang of it.

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Joanna Carter » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:20 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Bill Backhouse wrote:… (see I'm learning, didn't call it 5X4)
No, no, no!!! 4x5 is Yankee talk; we're a UK forum and do things right. 5x4 is perfect here :roll: :lol:
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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Neil Barnes » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:39 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

But we're all European these days - shouldn't that be 127 x 102? :mrgreen:

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Dave Parkin » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:09 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Surely it should be 102 x 127 :wink:

or someware between quarter plate and half plate to us luddites

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Joanna Carter » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:30 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Neil Barnes wrote:But we're all European these days - shouldn't that be 127 x 102? :mrgreen:

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Bill Backhouse » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:38 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Jeez I'll refer to it as such:

120 = roll film

5X4 = little sheets

8X10 = big sheets

20X24 = flippin silly sheets

I'll probably go with big sheets but chop them into little sheets for testing. as I havn't anything to dev flippin silly sheets in I won't be using them (Although I do have a jobodrum suitable for 20X16 so could cut some smaller sheets off to fit!!)

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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Paul Mitchell » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:35 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Bill Backhouse wrote:Jeez I'll refer to it as such:

120 = roll film

5X4 = little sheets

8X10 = big sheets

20X24 = flippin silly sheets

I'll probably go with big sheets but chop them into little sheets for testing. as I havn't anything to dev flippin silly sheets in I won't be using them (Although I do have a jobodrum suitable for 20X16 so could cut some smaller sheets off to fit!!)
You've already upset Joanna so we don't want to upset the 5x7 users now....

5x7 = medium sheets
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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by Joanna Carter » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:43 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Paul Mitchell wrote:You've already upset Joanna so we don't want to upset the 5x7 users now....
Oh, and it's 10x8 as well :P :roll: 8) :lol:
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Re: Hi From Surrey

Post by John Hamlen » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:59 pm Etc/GMT-1+01:00

Paul Mitchell wrote: John, one of my chums on the Filmwasters forum has had a go with this paper http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=4138.0
Paul
Thanks Paul. Some really nice images and great post-flashing info.

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